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The future of work is still human. Mark Oakeson: So construction the big thing with construction isyou've kind of got this group of takeoff software, right? So the construction guys, once a design is produced and it doesn't matter if it's a commercial building or if it's a bridge or a roadway project, there's quantities to be taken off, right? You got cubic yard of just dirt. You got cubic yard of concrete, and those quantities form the basis for the estimate, right? So you gotta know how much, how, how big things are and how much tonnage, how much cubic yardage, how much square footage is in the job so that you can put a price on it.
And so there's a bunch of takeoff software that exists. And I would say the forerunner in all that is PlanSwift. On center software has another set of takeoff software that's pretty prevalent out there, but that's the big one. It's PlanSwift and there's there's others, of course. And then, once you get through a takeoff, then you want something that you can estimate with, right? You want to be able to plug in all those quantities into some kind of a tool that helps you estimate your job.
There's one called B2W. I guess they figured Bid To Win was a little cheesy of a name. And those are the big ones in the transportation industry. The heavy highway and civil construction industry. And they're geared towards moving dirt and that kind of stuff drainage pipelines and those kinds of things.
And then on the commercial side of things, there's Sage, which used to be called Timberline, you know, Sigma pro S. There'sestimating software that kind of just specializes into that commercial construction realm. So what we're talking about here is first we start withthe estimating software, and then you move into -- Well, you start with the takeoff software, then you move into the estimating software, and then you move into the project management software.
Mark Oakeson: And so, and the scheduling. That's part of that. So your Primavera, your Microsoft projects, you're billing s, which is an Autodesk product is kind of a project management software. Procore is a big one. So there's kind of these big three segments in the construction industry of software that's out there.
And then there's some overarching software that, I mean, there's companies that are trying to incorporate the accounting, estimating,and all the project management all wrapped up. Nobody's kind of really tackled that sufficiently in my opinion, but it'll probably happen one day. Isaac Oakeson: So what's your thoughts on somebody?
I'm just thinking about an engineer that wants to focus on learning one of these, do those skills translate to the other softwares?
Are they easier to pick up? Because to learn all of these seems impossible, but if you learn one maybe they bleed over into others. Mark Oakeson: They do, they do. So, if you were heading into the construction industry and you were focused on heavy highway and civil, and you jumped in Bid to Win, or B2W as they call it now that would definitely translated into HeavyBid. And you could transfer pretty seamless across platforms. But estimating is estimating. I mean, to be good at it, you really need to get a lot of experience, but the software to tackle, is just the software, if that's what we're talking about.
Learning any of these is going to help you across all the platforms. For sure. Sketchup is, is a nice one. Sketchup is kind of a stripped downBIM modeling software. So it's not as big as Autodesk's Revit, but for hoisting plants and those kinds of things - we got big girders that were hoisting and we got to create a hoisting plan for that stuff.
That's a good one to learn. Mark Oakeson: Yeah, they all have. Sketchup in fact, just barely went to a subscription based model, which most software is doing these days. But yeah, you can get a standalone version, but I think they're going, subscription-based now. All right. Well, let's dive into our next discipline, which is our geo-tech arena.
Obviously I think there's a plethora of softwares for geo-tech, depending on what you're analyzing and what you're getting into. But, and I think in general, though, you have various software for foundations. I, myself am familiar with using what's called LPile, and we use that to design some of our deeper foundations or for the transmission structures, but we've listed here others, like Plaxis SoilVision, OpenGround site, and there's various software for seismic software.
There's a really neat website I found actually called geotechpedia. And it is pages and pages and pages of geo-tech software that you can check out. I don't know what to say, like, the most popular or the most used. It seems like there's just a lot of different applications for different things, but what are your thoughts on these geo-tech ones? Mark Oakeson: The only geo-tech that I do personally sometimes I have to design retaining structures, you know, soil nail wallssoldier pile, those kinds of things.
And I don't use any of those. I got a package. I use StruCalc for a lot of those, and we'll talk about that when we get to the structural software, but I don't use any of those. My staff of course is, I mean, I'm coming from more of a structural perspective on that. I just know that in general, there is a software for basically any application in the geo-tech world, and I'll, we'll try to link this resource, but it's called geotechpedia. If you go check out a software, I'm telling you there are pages and pages and pages of different software, so you can check out for geo-tech.
So a ton of them, ton of them. All of these softwares are used basically to model ground water or surface water, or flood plain modeling. Then, again, there's quite a few softwares under water resources, but for like school and for what you use even after school, I think that EC RAS and Heck-HMS are very popular softwares. Isaac Oakeson: Do you know of any others for water resources or anything that falls under there?
Isaac Oakeson: Again for water resources, that geotechpedia also has a ton of options for water resource softwares for water and groundwater. And I could sit here and read you a few pages, and I'm not going to be familiar with them. Mark Oakeson: Neither am I. And I can say Bentley offers a ton of those kinds of packages.
They're, they're a good resource too, to kind of check out. Isaac Oakeson: Yeah, just a quick sample. So go check that out. We'll list thatLet's jump into structural, then this is kind of Mark's forte.
So, so what do you got here? Mark Oakeson: What's cool about the structural software is it's kind of a it's it's it's developed, I'll say. Now a Revit has completely taken over structural design.
The building information model. I mean, that's what's used nowadays, and it's a nice tool. What they can do with that now is, in the old days, when you had to draw everything -- AutoCAD had some 3D capabilities, but the information wasn't really in the core of the software, it wasn't really in three dimensions like it is in Revit. And so what's cool about that is thatyou know you're used to looking at cross sections and you can look at plan views on projects, butwhat they're working with with Revit as a complete 3dD model.
And so they just go through and they define where they want these views what plan views they want to define, what section views they want to define.
And it's really easy for them to define these, these locations. And then it just compiles all that for them and creates a set of contract drawings. And it's really great tool. Isaac Oakeson: I'm not terribly familiar with. All of the softwares. Is Revit doing a structural analysis or is it just for drawings?
Mark Oakeson: Right now, It's primarily just for drawing, but that is changing as well. Autodesk is working on an actual structural design component to Revit. And my belief is that eventually that will probably take over the standalone structural analysis packages, because it would be such a cool thing because you're building -- because with the other structural software. Like if we're talking about SAP , RESA STAAD, you know, any of these other high end structural packages that you can buy, you're really building the model within that structural software and doing the analysis separate from the tool that you use for the design and the layout.
Well, it just makes sense to merge those two together eventually, and Autodesk is working on that and who knows what ends up happening, but I can just foresee that being too much of a convenience. When you're designing and building your model and bam, after that, you do your structural analysis. And the whole thing is put together in one package. I think that's a good deal. Build better with connected construction workflows, teams, and data. Find solutions for architecture, engineering, and construction.
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